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| From: KingofNewbies
| Posted: 7/26/2001 11:49:19 AM | Mark
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Let's get one thing
straight. It's just a cartoon. Akira Toriyama is not racist. All the
characters are meant to look goofy. If you've seen DB, many of the
characters look strange.
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| From: Paikuhan
| Posted: 7/26/2001 12:05:06 PM | Mark
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"The black people in DB
were drawn as stereotypes, true. But that has nothing to do with
racism. Since they know so little of black people, that's the only
way they know to draw them."
The only way they know how to
draw them? Very wrong. If they know so little of black people, how
to they know to draw them like that? No black people have lips like
that. So tell me, if you saw a black person, why you would decide to
draw his lips completely different from how they were. Racism/bias.
There aren't many black people in Japan, but the Japanese are not
completely ignorant of black people. As a matter of fact, most of
the manga that does have black people, don't draw them like that.
Some one mentioned the anime called "Burn up". Robotech/Macross,
Guy:awakening of the Devil, Fairplace, Tough, and Lokudenasu Blues,
hardely ever have black people, but when they are shown they are not
drawn like inhuman idiots, they are drawn fine. They look inhuman in
DBZ, and in reality the difference is not that drastic. Look at the
difference, between say Sharpner and Yamcha. One is White and is
Japanese. They don't look too different. Now let's take Yamcha and
the black baseball player. He doesn't look human next to Yamcha. Why
is that so many other manga artistic can make black people look fine
while toriyama makes them look inhuman and retarded? Clearly they
have seen black people, so that's not an excuse. It racism/bias. No
way around it.
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| From: Mustachioed
Plumber | Posted: 7/26/2001 12:07:50 PM | Mark
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Most Americans would
think of Dragon Ball being racist because in America, there are all
kinds of people. And it's very hard for some people to think of a
place where over 95% of the population is one race. But it's like
that in Japan along with most country's in the world. When I took a
vacation in Japan, a group of Japanese people I was with saw a black
person from a distance. They thought it was just a very tanned
Japanese person. They weren't stupid or ignorant, they just grew up
in community where you only came in contact or communicated with one
race of people. So it's not very fair to call AT or DB
racist.
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| From: android
35 | Posted: 7/26/2001 12:14:05 PM | Mark
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AT doesn't draw many
dogs either. Does he hate dogs?
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| From: xXvegetto2Xx
| Posted: 7/26/2001 12:16:44 PM | Mark
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Come to think of it, I
don't remember me in the manga. He hates me!!
*Runs away
crying*
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| From: GigaMagusZ
| Posted: 7/26/2001 12:18:57 PM | Mark
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Strange, I remember
Veggeto in the Manga...
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| From: xXvegetto2Xx
| Posted: 7/26/2001 12:19:52 PM | Mark
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Yes, but I'm
Vegetto2.
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| From: PrettyBoy
| Posted: 7/26/2001 12:25:29 PM | Mark
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Oh no, you ain't talking
trash about Simpsons and getting away with it.
Simpsons doesn't
put jokes about people of different races, religions, sexual
preferences to be funny (well, maybe a little), but it is their
cheap type of satire. They use obvious offensive jokes to show how
stupid their characters really are. Example, when Krusty the Klown
was doing his impersonation of an asian person (no ticky, no shirty,
me lika fried rice, you get the drift), the entire audience was
apalled. Simpsons makes jokes about (I am describing them as
non-offensive as I can think of right now) sons of the south
(Cletus), non-heterosexuals (we all remember that episode), asians
(stated above), latinos (Bumblebee man), and anything that they can
think of. They put those jokes to prove that the majority of the
American population knows those jokes are bad, but they laugh
anyway. They're not trying to be political activists, or burning
crosses in people's lawns, they're conducting an experiment. At
least that's my opinion.
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| From: android
35 | Posted: 7/26/2001 12:27:48 PM | Mark
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I was mainly under the
impression that Matt Groening wanted to make people laugh and make
money on the side. But that's just me.
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| From: Kuzuryu
| Posted: 7/26/2001 1:59:25 PM | Mark
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Paikuhan, you do have a
good point. I think it's interesting that you don't care how often
that Africans appear in manga, but what they look like when they do.
Based on the argument, Toriyama is being racist/biased.
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| From: Green
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Urge... to destroy
world... rising... rising...
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| From: fenix1230
| Posted: 7/26/2001 3:15:41 PM | Mark
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why don't you guys get a
sense of humor. Black this, White that, Racism, Klan, blah blah
blah. lighten up. And it's not that blacks get special treatment,
but blacks are hypersensitive when it comes to racism. Racism is
apparent in every country in the world, but sometimes ignorance
plays a part too. remember the first series, DragonBall, how many
kids look like Gokou, or Krillin. How many people have three eyes.
So what if the black people in DBZ-GT do not look realistic, and
even degrading, it's just a show. By the way, i have been pulled
over for doing nothing. i have been denied the ability to purchase
something because of my race. I have been told "are you sure you can
afford this." But i've also had my car broken into three times, and
each time the person who did it was african american. I have had my
apartment, and dorm room broken into, and once again, the people who
broke into my place were african american. and when i play
basketball, african american's always seem to argue every single
call, and try to start a fight if things don't go their way on the
court. I'm asain. has anyone ever seen a teen movie called Sixteen
Candles? do any asains here use two forks for chopsticks. should i
get mad? why not just lighten up. By the way, I have no ill feelings
toward african americans, and though this is a little off subject,
not only do i have a lot of friends who are black, but a lot of my
past girlfriends were too. if anything, get off Akira's back on the
racism thing, lighten up, and get a life.
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| From: vegeta415
| Posted: 7/26/2001 3:19:23 PM | Mark
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I'd hate to admit it but
maybe it is a little racist. Does anyone remember the Tenkaichi
Boudaki at the beginning of the Buu saga. Trunks and Goten beat up a
guy dressed up as Mighty Mask and took his costume and wore it...
has anyone ever noticed that Mighty Mask's costume looks an awful
lot like a kkk member's costume? I thought this was a coincidence
but then, the first person Mighty Mask fights is a black person! Now
I'm not sure how much of a coincidence that is. It's true that there
aren't many blacks in DB but when there is one, he fights someone
looking like a kkk member. Coincidence? I think not.
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| From: PrettyBoy
| Posted: 7/26/2001 3:24:40 PM | Mark
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| Oh God, can you be
serious? Now you're just looking for reasons. Anything can be
interpreted as being racist nowadays. Its all opinion!! |
| From: AbsoluteLaguna
| Posted: 7/26/2001 3:35:59 PM | Mark
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well, they needed
someone with a mask so trunks and goten could disguise
themselves
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| From: vegeta415
| Posted: 7/26/2001 3:45:16 PM | Mark
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Well sure they needed
someone with a mask but I think its a little too coincidental that
he looks like that AND he fights a black person.
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| From: Uropygi
| Posted: 7/26/2001 3:54:33 PM | Mark
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The mighty mask analogy
is taking it too far. I don't think that's the case. "Black people
get special treatment". How supremely ignorant. Yes, African
Americans are treated special, like being discriminated against more
harshly than any other ethnic group in the world. Going through 400
years of slavery, having your homeland plundered and having your
culture destroyed, and having to rebuild from nothing. Being
European, I really envy Africans. I wish I had that kind of special
treatment.
Like it or not, a point has been made:
AT/DB/DBZ/DBGT are racist. And let me get this right
"if
anything, get off Akira's back on the racism thing, lighten up, and
get a life."
or
"Hey, it's ok Akira's a racist, just
accept ignorance/prejudice/racism, it shouldn't bother you"
No letting Akira Toriyama be better than anyone else. The DB
series is entertaining, but the man is racist/biased.
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| From: ss7gogetenks
| Posted: 7/26/2001 4:00:30 PM | Mark
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Drawing black people the
stereotypical way is not the only way to draw them. Look at
Commander Black in the 10th anniversary special. He wasn't drawn
stereotypical. Black from DB was. There is another racist joke in
DB, Oolong. He's a PIG wearing a CHINESE, COMMUNIST uniform. Where's
the racist at you say? He's a Chinese Communist Pig. He's calling
Chinese communists pigs thru Oolong.
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| From: AbsoluteLaguna
| Posted: 7/26/2001 4:05:20 PM | Mark
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Like it or not, a
point has been made: AT/DB/DBZ/DBGT are racist. And let me get this
right.
lol, i didn't see that point be
made.
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| From: StriderHien
| Posted: 7/26/2001 4:08:31 PM | Mark
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| Akira Toriyama is
racist. He has real issues. Think about it. Goku is essentially your
Asian hero. Yet in order to become stronger, he needs to transform
from Asian to White("Super" Saiyajin), to beat anyone who is really
strong. That isn't a very good message. You can't be Asian and win,
you have to be white. It sounds like a personal problem to
me. |
| From: ss7gogetenks
| Posted: 7/26/2001 4:08:40 PM | Mark
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| From: StriderHien
| Posted: 7/26/2001 4:11:22 PM | Mark
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| Laguna, how did you NOT
see the point? |
| From: AbsoluteLaguna
| Posted: 7/26/2001 4:16:45 PM | Mark
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Akira Toriyama is
racist. He has real issues. Think about it. Goku is essentially your
Asian hero. Yet in order to become stronger, he needs to transform
from Asian to White("Super" Saiyajin), to beat anyone who is really
strong. That isn't a very good message. You can't be Asian and win,
you have to be white. It sounds like a personal problem to
me.
changing into suppa saiya-jin doesn't say ANYTHING.
and that's another thing, i don't see how people think the hair of
suppa saiya-jin is blonde and they're turning white. A T was trying
to make them look stronger by making them look like they have
"Golden Power" almost like the triforce from zelda.
and the hair
is more gold than blonde and when was it that if you were white,
you'd have green eyes? shouldn't you have blue eyes and in some
cases brown?
damn, you people are just taking everything that A T
does and rewiring it to make it look racist
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| From: Assassin14
| Posted: 7/26/2001 4:19:39 PM | Mark
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| From: AbsoluteLaguna
| Posted: 7/26/2001 4:21:20 PM | Mark
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Laguna, how did you
NOT see the point?
did you not see OUR point?
let ME
recap for you
"Most Americans would think of Dragon Ball
being racist because in America, there are all kinds of people. And
it's very hard for some people to think of a place where over 95% of
the population is one race. But it's like that in Japan along with
most country's in the world. When I took a vacation in Japan, a
group of Japanese people I was with saw a black person from a
distance. They thought it was just a very tanned Japanese person.
They weren't stupid or ignorant, they just grew up in community
where you only came in contact or communicated with one race of
people. So it's not very fair to call AT or DB
racist."
"Obviously the biggest reason there aren't black
people in DB has already been stated. This is a Japanese show and
there are very few blacks in Japan. This isn't an American product
so you can't judge it as if it is one.
Another reason is
simply because they don't know about the issue. Racism between
blacks and whites is a problem that we have in America. They know
little about it in Japan. At the time DB was airing nobody thought
it would ever make it to the US.
And technically there aren't
many whites in anime either. Because of the way the characters are
drawn they may look white. But actually most of them are Asian. If
you've ever seen another anime with actual white people (i.e.
Americans) depicted in it then you know there is a
difference"
"When you call AT racist you are applying an
American idea to a Japanese person. That just doesn't make sense.
You can't judge them by our standards. Why would he be racist
against black people? There aren't any even around him. In his life
he doesn't think twice about it. You just think that because in your
life it is an issue. Racism against blacks is an issue in America,
not in Japan."
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Sore Wa Shinjitsu" - Himura Kenshin |
| From: Assassin14
| Posted: 7/26/2001 4:24:30 PM | Mark
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<sarcam>So is
gundam wing</sarcam>
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| From: StriderHien
| Posted: 7/26/2001 4:26:00 PM | Mark
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"Golden Power" what a
way to glorify them turning white. So the hair's slighly more gold
than blonde. And that makes it ok? Funny. That doesn't change the
fact that their skin becomes fair (like white people), and their
eyes turn a color that only white peoples eyes turn. Asians do not
have green eyes. Goku's skin, hair, and eyes change to become white.
"you people are just taking everything that A T does and
rewiring it to make it look racist "
Notice that no one here
is changing ANY facts, so it's not being rewritten. It is racist.
Nothing is being changed. The racism is just being pointed
out. |
| From: AbsoluteLaguna
| Posted: 7/26/2001 4:35:18 PM | Mark
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when the hell does their
skin turn fair? everyone's skin looks like that when they're under a
powerful aura (took at tenshinhan) and when you're skin's near
something that's glowing gold, your skin looks that way too
go
watch one of those educational movies about color
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| From: AbsoluteLaguna
| Posted: 7/26/2001 4:41:23 PM | Mark
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and do you really think
akira toriyama would've done that suppa saiya-jin racists thing on
purpose? he's asian! would he do something to insult himself?!
you're just taking something he did for another purpose and then you
accused his purpose was to be racist, that's what i meant by
rewiring
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| From: StriderHien
| Posted: 7/26/2001 4:59:04 PM | Mark
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"If they know so little
of black people, how to they know to draw them like that? No black
people have lips like that. So tell me, if you saw a black person,
why you would decide to draw his lips completely different from how
they were. Racism/bias. There aren't many black people in Japan, but
the Japanese are not completely ignorant of black people. As a
matter of fact, most of the manga that does have black people, don't
draw them like that. Some one mentioned the anime called "Burn up".
Robotech/Macross, Guy: Awakening of the Devil, Fairplace, Tough, and
Lokudenasu Blues, hardely ever have black people, but when they are
shown they are not drawn like inhuman idiots, they are drawn
fine...."
In short, why does AT have to make black people
look inhuman while these other artists do not? Racism.
"They
thought it was just a very tanned Japanese person."
Then why
does AT draw them like monsters? (2nd stage Cell, and Paikuhan) If
the difference is not that great then why go out of your way to
change them? Racism
As stated before, the number if black
people in dbz isn't the issue, it's how they are depicted.
so
the posts
"Most americans would think...."
"Obviously the
biggest reason..."
"And technically there aren't
many...."
Don't address the immediate/specific subject, of
the black depictions.
"When you call AT racist you are
applying an American idea to a Japanese person. That just doesn't
make sense. You can't judge them by our standards."
"Another
reason is simply because they don't know about the issue. Racism
between blacks and whites is a problem that we have in America. They
know little about it in Japan."
The Japanese are just as
racist as anyone else. You think that the japanese don't know about
racism? Or they are not racist? They are quite racist and no
exception to the rule. Come on, that is an insult to their
intelligence. They are aware of racism in america. The are not
blind. Since when did racism become something strictly american?
Never. Everyone is guilty of racism, and no one can be excused. The
japanese and AT are no exception.
"Why would he be racist
against black people? There aren't any even around him.
Ignorance. Most people who are racist and prejudice, have
very little knowledge or experience of the group that they
discriminate against.
Next time you watch DBZ pay very close
attention. Goku or anyone as a super saiyan has pinker, fairer skin
when he changes. That is WITHOUT the glowing aura. Just look at any
two images. Why would Toriyama insult himself? He has issues, as I
stated earlier. |
| From: AbsoluteLaguna
| Posted: 7/26/2001 5:06:20 PM | Mark
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why don't YOU pay
attention, when he used kaio-ken again'st bejita and smashed him
into the mountain, then fell down and landed he had that lighter and
pink skin too and i already mentioned tenshinhan
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| From: AbsoluteLaguna
| Posted: 7/26/2001 5:10:22 PM | Mark
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"When you call AT racist
you are applying an American idea to a Japanese person. That just
doesn't make sense. You can't judge them by our standards"
we
weren't saying that japan had no idea about the racism we were
saying that racism was different from the US than in japan and yes
we know there is racism everywhere.
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| From: StriderHien
| Posted: 7/26/2001 5:12:25 PM | Mark
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| You don't understand.
That is due to light from an aura. What I am talking about is
completely different. With NO AURA/energy/light at all, Super
Saiyajin have fairer skin than regular saiyajin. |
| From: AbsoluteLaguna
| Posted: 7/26/2001 5:15:03 PM | Mark
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i understood
that
that's why i refered to the kaioken goku when he landed
after smashing bejita to the mountain because he had NO visible
aura
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| From: StriderHien
| Posted: 7/26/2001 5:16:19 PM | Mark
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| Oh really? It's
"different" racism? And how exactly is racism different in Japan?
The methods of racism have more variations, if that's what you mean.
Racism is racism. By saying it's somehow different in Japan, you are
attempting to justify it, and it does not work like that. It's still
racism. |
| From: StriderHien
| Posted: 7/26/2001 5:18:30 PM | Mark
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| If you understood than
what was the point of your post? That kind of skin differentiation
is inconsistent and due to artists mistakes. Super Saiyajins always
have fairer skin. No mistakes. |
| From: AbsoluteLaguna
| Posted: 7/26/2001 5:19:40 PM | Mark
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why don't you read the
thread again and tell me what i meant
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| From: AbsoluteLaguna
| Posted: 7/26/2001 5:24:57 PM | Mark
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If you understood
than what was the point of your post? That kind of skin
differentiation is inconsistent and due to artists mistakes. Super
Saiyajins always have fairer skin. No mistakes.
if
you're so sure that the lighter skin with the kaio-ken without the
aura was the artists mistake then why not say that the artist made
the mistake of putting light skin on the suppa
saiya-jins?
and i already said before that akira toriyama's
purpose for the suppa saiyajin's appearances could not have been
racist because it's riddiculous to argue that he was trying to
insult himself since he was in fact asian and you're saying that his
purpose was to say that asians can't beat stronger enemies without
"turning white" and a better end this post cause i have a run-on
sentence
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| From: SSnesVegita
| Posted: 7/26/2001 5:29:17 PM | Mark
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1. Akira Toriyama did no
color in those scenes. That was done by the workers at
Toei.
2. Super Saiya-jin do not have fairer skin etc.
Toriyama only did black and white manga and there is no difference
in skin color when Goku transforms.
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| From: AbsoluteLaguna
| Posted: 7/26/2001 5:30:19 PM | Mark
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1. Akira Toriyama did
no color in those scenes. That was done by the workers at
Toei.
2. Super Saiya-jin do not have fairer skin etc.
Toriyama only did black and white manga and there is no difference
in skin color when Goku transforms.
that's also very
true
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| From: AbsoluteLaguna
| Posted: 7/26/2001 5:34:45 PM | Mark
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and there's also a proof
(not solid however) that there is no color difference from when they
went suppa saiya-jin.
i just took a picture of goku jr. in
normal state, and another one of goku jr. SSJ. then i used my image
editor and cut out only their chins and pasteds them next to each
other and there was no color difference. but then when i looked back
at the original pictures, the SSJ seemed to have lght skin probably
because the golden hair was there
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"Ken Wa Kyouki, Kenjutsu
Wa Satsujin Ken, Sore Wa Shinjitsu" - Himura Kenshin |
| From: CSMasta
| Posted: 7/26/2001 5:36:56 PM | Mark
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Get a life. It really
doesnt matter if he is racist or not. Whats the point of argueing.
What are u gonna do if he is racist? Are u gonna stop watching the
show? Probably not. So plz just shut up.
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| From: Ryan
Ferneau | Posted: 7/26/2001 5:38:39 PM | Mark
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And I suppose that the
fact that Dexter Douglas has to transform into Freakazoid sends the
message that non-blue-skinned people are weak.
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ceramic weenie should fetch a hefty price on the ceramic weenie
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| From: KingofNewbies
| Posted: 7/26/2001 5:47:13 PM | Mark
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OK let's end this topic
here and now. It doesn't really matter whether it's racist or not.
This is just a show.
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but why take any chances |
| From: AbsoluteLaguna
| Posted: 7/26/2001 5:48:40 PM | Mark
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have someone lock this
topic then
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"Ken Wa Kyouki, Kenjutsu Wa Satsujin Ken, Sore
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| From: KingofNewbies
| Posted: 7/26/2001 5:49:40 PM | Mark
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Well the person who
started this topic has to close it.
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killed anybody but why take any chances |
| From: Andygal111
| Posted: 7/26/2001 5:50:33 PM | Mark
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Or a mod can. Try
marking it for "other: Please close this topic"
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spanker of vs topic makers on the DBZ board. |
| From: AbsoluteLaguna
| Posted: 7/26/2001 5:51:23 PM | Mark
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k
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"Ken Wa
Kyouki, Kenjutsu Wa Satsujin Ken, Sore Wa Shinjitsu" - Himura
Kenshin |
| From: AlphaOmega
Forcer | Posted: 7/26/2001 5:51:34 PM | Mark
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| IMO, he draws them with
big lips to show their mouths when they are closed, because you
can't see him then. And, according to some people's opinions, he is
also racist against whites because he draws them with 3 eyes, no
noses, and makes them perverts. Is that true? No. |
| From: Son
Raditz II | Posted: 7/26/2001 6:20:51 PM | Mark
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Okay, I figured this out
myself.
Misutaa Popo is very similar to some old dolls
(forget the name) that were sold a while ago. "Popo" (that might not
be the correct spelling) is Italian for "doll." Pretty good how I
caught that, eh?
- Radittsu
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Not all liberals
are idiots, but most idiots are liberals. SUCK ON THAT, DORK
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